Hi there everyone. Just wanted to add a quick note in regards to the Local Diesel Class. There have been some rule changes for that class this year - they will be posted when the rules are finalized. I will be the Pro Street Class Rep this year and also be acting as the Class Rep for the Local Diesel Class so that if anyone has any questions, they can feel free to contact me directly either by phone or by email (sledpullerrdg@hotmail.com). We will be teching the PSD and Local Diesel's rigorously for everyone's safety and it looks like its going to be a great year. :)
Happy Pulling!

--Michelle Greig

good to hear about the new saftey equipement being put in place and other rules!!!

Any idea how many trucks will be running Pro-Street this year seeing a few are moving up to ProMod?


--RyanB

hey Michael - since when did local become a class, and when will such "rules" be posted

As I said previously and very vehemetly - where does the club get off makin "rules" for local run what you brung????

hey Michael - since when did local become a class, and when will such "rules" be posted

As I said previously and very vehemetly - where does the club get off makin "rules" for local run what you brung????

First of all , sanctioneed classes "EXCLUDE" many people. Period. Second - local pullers are exactly that - non sanctioned!!!!
You have no jursidiction as I recall, from my days as a vice pres and insurance rep.

Second - how do you police a modificication you cant see or even understand ie diesel "boxes" internally modified turbo's etc etc

I go back to my original statement and question - where do you get off tryin to police a street driven "local" truck", with licence and insurance" diesel or gasser. Show me the "incidents" - there arnet any in my memory!! or experience. period!! There are however a few sanctiuoned incidents cus people make rules about saftey equipment that shouldn't be made. Argue me an i will show u the lawsuits!!

And dont quote me " the insurance company" cus I was the insurance rep for this organization for three years!!!!!!!!!

You the executive are way oversteppin the bounds of what you were voted in for - makin the Club better , not bullshit rules to whatever ... argue me all u like

thanx
Ken

First of all , sanctioneed classes "EXCLUDE" many people. Period. Second - local pullers are exactly that - non sanctioned!!!!
You have no jursidiction as I recall, from my days as a vice pres and insurance rep.

Second - how do you police a modificication you cant see or even understand ie diesel "boxes" internally modified turbo's etc etc

I go back to my original statement and question - where do you get off tryin to police a street driven "local" truck", with licence and insurance" diesel or gasser. Show me the "incidents" - there arnet any in my memory!! or experience. period!! There are however a few sanctiuoned incidents cus people make rules about saftey equipment that shouldn't be made. Argue me an i will show u the lawsuits!!

And dont quote me " the insurance company" cus I was the insurance rep for this organization for three years!!!!!!!!!

You the executive are way oversteppin the bounds of what you were voted in for - makin the Club better , not bullshit rules to whatever ... argue me all u like

thanx
Ken

Oh, and as I recall, as insurance rep for the club - the insurance for the club does "NOT" cover the local classes, the fair boards insurance does that. So why is the club executive thinkin it is the rules authority for the local classes??

Personally...I think your right Ken in saying that there is no real way to police them but there is one quick check you can make (actually 3). This being a "stock" "local" class...put it in the rules that all pullers must run a stock turbo. Its pretty easy to pull an air box or intake tuble and check the bore size. 2.5" would solve ALOT of problems. Sure, guys are still going to run boxes...let them! but with out the air they are going to find out what a burnt piston is all about real fast. While your under the hood check for water (these systems are super easy to spot) and check for nitrous or Propane. Either of the last 3 are a an automatic DQ.

If they are running larger turbo's and other mods, there is no reason they can't run PSD and if the ruling is still in about the first trail pull that will be good for them to get hooked.

Ryan

Hey Ryan, I am sorry to say that unless the so called club rules have changed in the last few days the word" stock" doesnt exist in any rule book either here or in Central

last but not least - if the "sanctioned classes" get to set thier own rules on whats allowed for equipment, how is it that anonymous someones or people outside the so called class, or worse, the executive are settin the rules for a sanctioned class that doesn't exist. ie "Local" anything.
We as fellow pullers are not allowed to interfere in the other sanctioned class rules or rule changes nor are we allowed to vote on them.
And the executive isnt allowed to set the rules for a particular class either - only concur or suggest modifications.

Sounds very much like discrimination to me

If your gonna make rules then the people runnin in the "new" local class had better be the ones making the rules just like the rest of the "classes"

Otherwise it is the word "discrimination" just like the censureship (deletion) on most of my posts already

"Hey Ryan, I am sorry to say that unless the so called club rules have changed in the last few days the word" stock" doesnt exist in any rule book either here or in Central"

So what your saying is that becasue my truck is still street legal and insured...I could pull in the local class when it comes to town if I don't pull in on of the sanctioned classes. Or seeing only COTPA has Pro-Mod I could pull in the local Great Lakes pulls for the diesels??? Personaly...not to brag or anything but I think there would be ALOT of pissed off locals when I put 75' to 100'or more on them all.

Doesn't quite seem fair to me!!!

If you ask me and I think the diesel trucks are the only ones that need this. Both Great Lakes and Central should have a class called "work stock" which would be sanctioned and would require no saftey gear, teching would be involved and you can't run a turbo larger than factory and Nos, Propane or Water. This would alow anyone wanting to pull there diesel in the now (not local but stock sanctioned class) as many times as they wanted. Heck, the way these trucks are built now even with a box and a stock charger you will find it VERY hard to break anything and you may find some of the guys running the circut every weekend.

Then all we need is another diesel class thats Full out Modified like the 4x4 Mods (in Ohio the Diesel mods and the 4x4 gasser mods run together).

Ryan

Ryan

--Ryan Bambach

Well my thoughts are and have been - Safety First - No Question.
But if rules are to be imposed - and you want continued participation - active particiaption from new pullers - then like any other "class" ask them what they want, and let them make the rules - just like any other class does (you dont see the executive allowe dd to make rules for SS, or Mod or any other class) - Then the executive can do the job they were voted in for - review and make suggestions and or approve the proposed rules

My only bone of contention here is making rules without asking the pullers what they want and rules that would exclude 95% of the local pullers

I am quite serious when i say that in any event i have attended over the last 15 or so years you could count the number of "stock" stock trucks that ran as locals (gasser or diesel) on one hand and have fingers left over to pick yur nose with.

I plan to attend the spring meeting and offer up my help to ensure safe local pullers, and to ensure that local pullers have a sane voice in what ever rules are put into place

Executives?? care to take me up on this offer?

Take you up on what offer? It has been stated more than once that everyone is welcome to come to the meeting and express their views, and that any changes will be a membership vote, not a executive decision.

Steve,

Steve
I guess thats my point - nobody not even the executive, never mind other out of class pullers, gets to interfere with another class's rules - why does the executive beleive it or the small paid membership of some 50-60 pullers might have a say in what the 400+ day hookers are doing?

I offered to get some local pullers together, work out a livable set of (safe) rules that will allow the most pullers from stock to mildly modified to participate, and to help look after the locals including the tech this year.

There is an offer not usaully put forth....someone willing to help!Don't let that slip away.

Hi all
Ken here
I would like all of you "local" pullers to send me your thoughts and suggestions for what you would like to see in a set of rules for "local" gas and diesel classes.
Rules are coming wether we like it or not so we might as well have imput.
I will be taking these suggestions to the spring meeting.
If you dont participate yuo cant complain later.
My email is ckr5610@hotmail.com
thanx
Ken

Hi all
Ken here
I would like all of you "local" pullers to send me your thoughts and suggestions for what you would like to see in a set of rules for "local" gas and diesel classes.
Rules are coming wether we like it or not so we might as well have imput.
I will be taking these suggestions to the spring meeting.
If you dont participate yuo cant complain later.
My email is ckr5610@hotmail.com
thanx
Ken